I'm pretty sure I've found a solution to the rears:
Keep stock ebrake cables
18% more clamping force
Larger diameter rotor
Thicker Rotor
No hubcentric spacer
Under 15" wheels.
I need to test fit and make a prototype. Does anyone have a set, or a single rear hub and knuckle I can borrow/buy. I don't care about condition.
I've got a spare rear hub and knuckle. It's a little far away, but if you get desperate you can borrow it.
Anthony Locke
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Oh this is on my to-do short list since one of my rear calipers has been giving me trouble.
cool, well maybe this will attract more buyers than the front kit haha.
Hi Lynx, How do I get one of these kits to me - Melbourne, Australia? Thank you mate.
I also want this so GTi-R DUN :-)
I need a set or at least one rear hub before I can start working on this. I'll keep my eyes open locally. I DD my car so I makes it difficult to test fit something unless I have a spare.
Like I said in my Front BBK thread however, there was little intrest in the front kit, which is what does most of the braking. The rears are just a balance thing, and I can't see that many more people being interested in just the rears. It wouldn't make sense to upgrade just the rear brakes, and on the street it could be very dangerous.
On top of that a master cylinder will be needed to upgrade both front and rear or you will end up with a brake pedal that is an on off switch.
sounds sweet man ,your work on the front kit was spot on!!! so i am looking forward to whatever you come up with !!! thanks for all your hard work man ! i appreciate it ! let me know when you get these built !
lynx i have a whole rear brake assembly with knuckle. hub. caliper. u name it i got it
I have everything but the hub/knuckle already, let me know where you are and what you want for them by pm.
erm what kind of caliper did you are using ?
i have a Maxima J30 Chassis rear brake they are 10.1 inch my friend make a braket in aluminium very basic and some modification to the e brake braket and done..
Btw i put Rigth on left and left on rigth.
i spend arround $100 on braket and calipers with pad and disk.. maxima partern is 5 bolts but machine shop do 4x100 for $10 dollars hehe
stock on a gti-r is 10.2 rear
That's not an upgrade, it's exactly the same as stock, only you get to use a maxima rotor which is great.
o well. im thinking gtir rear brake are same than b13...my fault..
when i do my awd swap the b13 brake dont fit on rear hub and i used maxima brake. are bigger than b13.
my rear brake are exact same size from ad22 in front. but solid disk no vent
Benmack I've sent you a pm As an update I have totally changed tack on this. I was looking at a Rear Mr2 Caliper FRONT altima rotors (22mm) Uprated Master Custom ebrake cables Research has shown that doing a massive upgrade to the rear has far more drawbacks than benefits and is actually totally unnessesary. I'm working on a very cheap rear upgrade that will just help to balance out the larger fronts. It will use the g20 caliper and a maxima rear rotor. This will allow me to keep my factory master cyl which is very cost effective and cuts down on time and headache for rerouting lines to a LHD uprated master. The devil with upgrading the rear brakes is that the better you brake, the less rear brake you need. A bigger rear rotor will allow for better heat dissapation in the rear, and give the rears just a tad more braking force to balance out the mosters I put on the front. And the best part? Still under 15's ;)
there's an even cheaper way to do this
1995 maxima 5x114 rear 278mm /aka 10.94" rotor redrilled
RAYBESTOS Part # 96511
or 2004 spec V brembo rear redrilled same rotor size except 4x114 , slightly safer on the redrill pattern
CENTRIC Part # 12842082R
CENTRIC Part # 12842082L
RAYBESTOS Part # 980308
CENTRIC Part # 12042082
30-100$ per rotor(large variation due to if you buy slotted/powerslot, branded ,jobberetc) plus cost of redrilling
maxima rear caliper brackets, spaces the oem caliper back to the centerline of the car 12mm and further out out 10mm for the 20mm larger disk 40-80$ for caliper brackets
A-1 CARDONE Part # 141506 DORMAN Part # 619503
you can reuse the oem caliper, or get a rebuilt g20
remove, trim, or bend the heatshield out of the way
you can do it for roughly 150-225$ depending on where u get your parts, taxes, shipping etc
i have been running this setup for the last year with 11" rear powerslot's from a spec-v brembo, maxima caliper brackets, hawk hps, and oem rear caliper.
car is definitely more composed, less dive on braking and improves braking feel significantly.
mine is paired with the fastbrakes 11" 4 piston wilwood kit,which uses prelude sr-v 11" rotors
front pads are wilwood bp20's
both clear my 15x7 enkei's and 15x6.5 advan rg knockoffs
Some very good info here. Lynx let me know if you get a kit together cause I am still interested.
why wait, u could go to napa and or lordco to get this done urself
rotor, maxima caliper bracket, redrill and install?
I want new calipers all around as well. I like the uprated OE stuff since my Pulsar is just my summer DD with maybe a few auto x's. Have EBC redstuff up front which helped but looking to replace my stock stuff since it is getting a little worn out.
Plus I am in no rush since I am currently doing CV's, wheel bearings, exhaust, suspension, and paint. Brakes can wait until next year if needs be.
Seriously though WHY THE ***************** ARE YOU NOT POSTING THIS INFO BEFOREHAND!
lol I've been searching brake parts for something compatible, and it took me an hour to come up with that. What a waste of time when you already had the solution. Anyway I'm glad for confirmation that It works though, I was just guessing. It was a good guess, but still a guess and it sucks throwing money away on new parts you can't use.
kuz nobody listens to me anyways and i had to guess n cough up the money to make it work too
i applaud everyone's effort to find a solution for the rear brakes ,excellent job lynx and nick-
Lol thanks but I didn't really do anything, it's all nick on this one. I just ordered 2 sets of similar brake parts from maxima, spec v, g20 etc, and I'll see if it works well with my front kit. If it does I might be able to package a total brake upgrade for 15" rims that can keep all your other factory parts like your master and ebrake.
i already offered to sell the rear as an upgrade, but no one would bite. ppl are cheap
It's hard to be the pioneer and it's true, not many are willing to put their money down to try something else. Many, many thanks for doing the testing and more importantly, share it with the community.
Never saw the thread...too bad or I would have been all over it.
I'd be all over this but i love my 14's way to much , All you need is amazing pads , nissan used the ad22 because of how great of a caliper it is and performs great with a good pad :D
1992 nissan pulsar gti-r Black sold/1993 red/rusty parts car /1990 nissan pulsar gtir fully built vet with to much jam
whole bunch of great
1992 nissan pulsar gti-r Black sold/1993 red/rusty parts car /1990 nissan pulsar gtir fully built vet with to much jam
keep telling yourself that lol
Got my rear brakes done:
Thanks nick This works great. I used 2004 spec v rear rotors, must get the ones with brembo package. I also used 2004 spec v rear caliper brakets with infinity g20 (p10 chassis) calipers. The maxima stuff is exactly the same as the spec v stuff in fuction, but just looks slightly different.
I have a brand new set of maxima rear rotors, and maxima rear brackets which is all you need to do this upgrade. You can re use everything else.
The rotors need to be re drilled which you can do yourself if you have a drill and half a brain.
I will sell the whole thing for 60 bucks plus shipping. Thats 2 rotors and 2 caliper brackets for 60 bucks.
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Hey I'll take tthe rotors and brackets. Where is a good place to source new G20 calipers for a good price?
rockauto.com if you don't mind maying hefty shipping/brokerage or picking them up across the border.
Otherwise buy them locally at carquest/napa/altrom/crappy tire/ etc etc etc
Sorry for my ignorance but you can buy OEM Nissan parts at these places? I was under the impression you had to go to a dealership to get OEM parts. I'll pick some up when I am in Carolina in the spring. I use Autopartsway.ca when I need generic parts. They are Canadian and ship really fast/cheap.
OEM parts must be bought from nissan. hence OEM.... Unless they are rebuild parts. Which in that case they would still technically not be OEM.
I want to make the conversion whit the v spec sentra 2004 rotor and caliper brackets whit g20 caliper . But i dont know if the stock gtir brake pads fits whit this setup because i already buy last summer hawks hp + pads . Do i have to buy the v spec pads or the oem gtir pads fit whit the v spec brackets .
u sure they're hp +???
from what i know there's only hps for the rear
Sorry yes it's the hps
Lynx can you confirm to me if you take your oem gtir pads or you change to the v spec sentra pads to fit in the brakets
I bought some Spec V pads, but only because I wanted stoptechs in the rear.....I can't remember if they were exactly the same as factory gtir pads.
I try to see some v spec pads picture and they dont look like the same . But maxima look like the same so nick can you confirm me that .
i reused the g20 rear pads i had installed, all u had to do was test fit the pad into the new caliper brackets, which are maxima carriers. meaning g20 and maxima pads will work, and share the same part # with hawk
nice thanks .
g20/maxima pad
[img]http://hawkperformance.iwebcat.com/imgVD/HAW/HB-421.jpg[/img]
spec v rear pad
[img]http://hawkperformance.iwebcat.com/imgVD/HAW/HB-378.jpg[/img]
Im gonna put the maxima setup because i buy hps hb421 pads last summer so they are brand new lol
lynx, where did you pick up your maxima brackets from?
RNN14
rockauto.com
This is exactly what I ordered from RockAuto back in November.
1999 NISSAN MAXIMA 3.0L V6
DORMAN 619503 (619-503) Caliper Bracket (8708.30.9920) CAD$ 18.53ea 2 x CAD$ 37.06
lordco and napa will likely carry them
I've tried Nick/Lynx's upgrade and it fails.
The maxima rotors fit once they are re-drilled, but for all I know that is because they are a hub centric rotor.
The maxima/sentra brackets DO NOT FIT UNDER THE STOCK GTIR WHEELS. I tightened the first wheel on a little bit before I figured this one out... and double checked the other side . . . and voila NO FIT.
I am going to go home and double check part numbers for the caliper brackets and see which ones they are, but they don't look like the ones in Lynx's picture.
Th fitment is close, but it does NOT fit. The wheels jam on the caliper bracket before you can tighten the lug nuts finger tight.
RNN14
genius did u read, never said it would fit under 14" wheels, neither does any 11" brake kit for the front
my post explicitly states it fits under 15x7 and 15x6.5 wheels that clear the fastbrakes 11" fronts
first post from lynx says 15" wheels, maybe your reading fails
Well fuck me up the goat ass.
Anybody want to buy a set of rotors and caliper brackets? Brand new, installed but not used.
RNN14
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